Comments on: 4 Red Flags Before You Make the Hire http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/4-red-flags-before-you-make-the-hire.html A blog about youth ministry and youth pastor life from Josh Griffin, the High School Youth Pastor at Saddleback Church. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:14:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brian http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/4-red-flags-before-you-make-the-hire.html#comment-25314 Brian Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:52:42 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=5500#comment-25314 To go a bit further with comment 2, I have actually been unceremoniously asked to leave twice in very similar fashion. I've struggled with wondering if I'm actually called to youth ministry in the first place, even after thirteen years in. And after examining my heart, I guess I'm a glutton for punishment because I want to come back for another try. With the apparent view of myself being the common denominator, how do I combat Red Flag number 1? O, and I also had to deal with Matt McGill getting me banned from the Podcast by my Pastor... j/k, hahaha! To go a bit further with comment 2, I have actually been unceremoniously asked to leave twice in very similar fashion. I’ve struggled with wondering if I’m actually called to youth ministry in the first place, even after thirteen years in. And after examining my heart, I guess I’m a glutton for punishment because I want to come back for another try. With the apparent view of myself being the common denominator, how do I combat Red Flag number 1?

O, and I also had to deal with Matt McGill getting me banned from the Podcast by my Pastor… j/k, hahaha!

]]> By: Josh http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/4-red-flags-before-you-make-the-hire.html#comment-25315 Josh Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:28:27 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=5500#comment-25315 @Drew - dude, that was delicious! JG @Drew – dude, that was delicious! JG

]]> By: Josh http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/4-red-flags-before-you-make-the-hire.html#comment-25316 Josh Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:06:29 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=5500#comment-25316 @anon - some changes and church positions are beyond your control. I know great youth workers with a scattered job history that God is using to this day in great positions. As I said in the article, this one isn't a total dealbreaker, but is a concern. If God wants you back in youth ministry, rise above the strike against you and ask God to guide you to the right ministry. I hope you'll return to the greatest calling in the world - youth ministry - very soon! JG @anon – some changes and church positions are beyond your control. I know great youth workers with a scattered job history that God is using to this day in great positions. As I said in the article, this one isn’t a total dealbreaker, but is a concern. If God wants you back in youth ministry, rise above the strike against you and ask God to guide you to the right ministry. I hope you’ll return to the greatest calling in the world – youth ministry – very soon!

JG

]]> By: Drew Aaron http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/4-red-flags-before-you-make-the-hire.html#comment-25317 Drew Aaron Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:31:26 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=5500#comment-25317 Great to have the steak dinner with you at NYMC. Good article. Great to have the steak dinner with you at NYMC.

Good article.

]]> By: anonymous... http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/4-red-flags-before-you-make-the-hire.html#comment-25318 anonymous... Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:10:53 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=5500#comment-25318 Speaking of Red Flag 1. bouncing all over the place. I was asked -by the senior pastor - to leave a church after 3 years of struggling with him over family time vs. ministry time (I was told I didn't put the church 1st when I left), and relationships vs. tasks. needless to say my wife and I were extremely hurt and still are trying to work through the pain and confusion. I took a job as a State Trooper (I guess I still get to work with teens just in a little bit different aspect) , but I miss full time youth ministry, in fact when I deal with some delinquent teens, it brings me to tears. I miss building relationships with people and investing my life in devoping leaders, if I were to try and get back into full time ministry, how does this "jumping around" appear, when I was asked to leave... I stuck it out for 3 years - 2 of which were the hard times, bad times, struggling times? (on a side note, my wife and I have decided that we will not go back into ministry full time unless we are sought out or God makes it undeniably clear that he wants us to.) any thoughts? Speaking of Red Flag 1. bouncing all over the place.
I was asked -by the senior pastor – to leave a church after 3 years of struggling with him over family time vs. ministry time (I was told I didn’t put the church 1st when I left), and relationships vs. tasks. needless to say my wife and I were extremely hurt and still are trying to work through the pain and confusion.

I took a job as a State Trooper (I guess I still get to work with teens just in a little bit different aspect) , but I miss full time youth ministry, in fact when I deal with some delinquent teens, it brings me to tears.

I miss building relationships with people and investing my life in devoping leaders, if I were to try and get back into full time ministry, how does this “jumping around” appear, when I was asked to leave… I stuck it out for 3 years – 2 of which were the hard times, bad times, struggling times?

(on a side note, my wife and I have decided that we will not go back into ministry full time unless we are sought out or God makes it undeniably clear that he wants us to.)

any thoughts?

]]> By: ED... http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/4-red-flags-before-you-make-the-hire.html#comment-25319 ED... Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:33:44 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=5500#comment-25319 If I were hiring, I'd want to see competence in laying out biblical truths without jargon too. It's so big a part of my job as a youthworker, that I can't imagine anyone being effective if they aren't able to do that. ED... If I were hiring, I’d want to see competence in laying out biblical truths without jargon too. It’s so big a part of my job as a youthworker, that I can’t imagine anyone being effective if they aren’t able to do that.

ED…

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