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	<title>Comments on: 7,100 Starbucks Closed for Training</title>
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	<description>A blog about youth ministry and youth pastor life from Josh Griffin, the High School Youth Pastor at Saddleback Church.</description>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19940</link>
		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully its training to implement this:
http://dvice.com/archives/2008/02/order_coffee_di.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully its training to implement this:<br />
<a href="http://dvice.com/archives/2008/02/order_coffee_di.php" rel="nofollow">http://dvice.com/archives/2008/02/order_coffee_di.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19939</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andy - my apologies...unnecessary rant from my end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andy &#8211; my apologies&#8230;unnecessary rant from my end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19938</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David- I didn&#039;t get a negative tone from any of the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David- I didn&#8217;t get a negative tone from any of the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19937</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess my commect would be...&quot;don&#039;t hate, congratulate.&quot;  a good friend of mine is in starbucks management and i actually spoke with him regarding this 3 hour training.  I ask you...those who have left cynical comments about this, have you even stopped and talked to a starbucks employee about what they think about this?  or as most of us do...base our opinion on an article written in &quot;churchmarketingsucks.com.&quot;  my friend was quite skeptical about this initially...he thought it would bore everyone to death.  but to his surprise, it lit a fire in everyone.  he compared it to how he feels after a really good bible study discussion.  whether or not our coffee tastes better, it&#039;s not just about the buzz.  it&#039;s like singing during worship...it&#039;s not about how much better we sing, but where are our hearts?  howard schultz wanted to bring the heart of the company back.  should we follow suit in our own ministries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess my commect would be&#8230;&#8221;don&#8217;t hate, congratulate.&#8221;  a good friend of mine is in starbucks management and i actually spoke with him regarding this 3 hour training.  I ask you&#8230;those who have left cynical comments about this, have you even stopped and talked to a starbucks employee about what they think about this?  or as most of us do&#8230;base our opinion on an article written in &#8220;churchmarketingsucks.com.&#8221;  my friend was quite skeptical about this initially&#8230;he thought it would bore everyone to death.  but to his surprise, it lit a fire in everyone.  he compared it to how he feels after a really good bible study discussion.  whether or not our coffee tastes better, it&#8217;s not just about the buzz.  it&#8217;s like singing during worship&#8230;it&#8217;s not about how much better we sing, but where are our hearts?  howard schultz wanted to bring the heart of the company back.  should we follow suit in our own ministries?</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19932</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>josh church marketing sucks has a good post on this ....

http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2008/02/starbucks_3hour.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>josh church marketing sucks has a good post on this &#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2008/02/starbucks_3hour.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2008/02/starbucks_3hour.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19933</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed with Dunkin Donuts using Starbucks marketing/training for their own good.

Churches in general need more training and less &quot;assuming&quot; everyone knows how to do their jobs.    Josh, how many youth leaders brought some of their leadership teams with them to the conf in Cincy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed with Dunkin Donuts using Starbucks marketing/training for their own good.</p>
<p>Churches in general need more training and less &#8220;assuming&#8221; everyone knows how to do their jobs.    Josh, how many youth leaders brought some of their leadership teams with them to the conf in Cincy?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrace Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrace Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian stole my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian stole my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19935</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How wonderful. Wish I had known about this 6 hours ago when I needed a latte.  Dang.  Well you can&#039;t win them all.  I&#039;m really thinking about this training thing, though.  I&#039;m developing major training for next fall with workshops interspersed throughout the year.  I can&#039;t wait to get started on it--the actual training interaction, I mean.  Working with leaders as we focus on youth ministry and why we do it is one of my favorite things to do.  Those &quot;a-ha!&quot; moments are cherished and sharing different perspectives with each other is great.  Maybe I&#039;ll see if I can get that free latte in the morning.  Yawn.  Time for bed!  Blog ya later!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How wonderful. Wish I had known about this 6 hours ago when I needed a latte.  Dang.  Well you can&#8217;t win them all.  I&#8217;m really thinking about this training thing, though.  I&#8217;m developing major training for next fall with workshops interspersed throughout the year.  I can&#8217;t wait to get started on it&#8211;the actual training interaction, I mean.  Working with leaders as we focus on youth ministry and why we do it is one of my favorite things to do.  Those &#8220;a-ha!&#8221; moments are cherished and sharing different perspectives with each other is great.  Maybe I&#8217;ll see if I can get that free latte in the morning.  Yawn.  Time for bed!  Blog ya later!</p>
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		<title>By: brian ferry</title>
		<link>http://www.morethandodgeball.com/youth-ministry/7100-starbucks-closed-for-training.html#comment-19936</link>
		<dc:creator>brian ferry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as http://churchmarketingsucks.com/ says, it creates a buzz.

What if we shut down our churches for a week because we were retraining all our people?  Or shut down our student ministries because we were revamping and retooling and refocusing everything?

My guess is that that very thing might generate a buzz.

To be honest, I want to go to Starbucks tomorrow to see what the deal is.  Will my coffee be better?  Or will it just TASTE better because of all the buzz?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as <a href="http://churchmarketingsucks.com/" rel="nofollow">http://churchmarketingsucks.com/</a> says, it creates a buzz.</p>
<p>What if we shut down our churches for a week because we were retraining all our people?  Or shut down our student ministries because we were revamping and retooling and refocusing everything?</p>
<p>My guess is that that very thing might generate a buzz.</p>
<p>To be honest, I want to go to Starbucks tomorrow to see what the deal is.  Will my coffee be better?  Or will it just TASTE better because of all the buzz?</p>
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